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the fiscal cliff. rich edson reporting from washington. thank you very much. liz: david, the news changes, and day-to-day, breaking news now, adam on dish. >> yeah, move over verizon, at&t, with the dish of dish if you want a new cell phone company. three of five fcc commissioners approved a rule change as of today, and it would allow support for the dish speck rum rule change for a wireless network. dish could then, perhaps, as sale at capacity for the u.s. market so the fcc, looks as if is clearing the way for dish. back to you. david: boy, a more ever-crowded market in the cell field. competition is good for consumers, not a bad thing. thank you very much. liz: washington, still, as you know, not coming to a solution on the fiscal cliff with the clock ticking louder than ever. coming up, we are joined exclusively by the former treasury secretary paul o'kneel and how he would solve the crisis. david: big labor taking a big hit, right it work bills sent to the governor's desk who is joining us live after the break. ♪ ins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligatis, bu
do more than avoid the fiscal cliff to get america's economy growing again. >> there is still the degree of uncertainty that prevents investors from making decisions. >> reporter: but washington's top republican leader speaker of the house john boehner explains there has been no progress. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening the economy and the jobs the white house wasted another week. >> reporter: democrats show no signs of backing off from sporting the president on raising the income tax on the rich. >> there has to be two sides to the bargain but we are not going to go back to 2011, put revenues and cuts on the table. >> reporter: but despite the impasse in washington, he sees signs the economy is improving. for the fiscal cliff she represent as balanced solution. spending cuts and a increase in taxes. kron 4 news. >>> we have clear skies out there across the bay area on this sunday evening after a spectacular weekend. it was cool on saturday. it was foggy but today just an "a" plus day. sunshine. temperatures in the 60s and 70s. and even right now, san
at how spending cuts in the so-called fiscal cliff would affect national security. also, our "washington journal" series on the fiscal cliff with talk about the alternative minimum tax. we will also talk with senator tom cole of oklahoma. >> several liebowitz to tell you about on c-span3 tomorrow. politico post journalists and author bob woodward and marco rubio. a little after 8:00 a.m. eastern. at 10:00 o'clock, the senate appropriations committee will hear about the federal response hurricane sandy. fema director craig fugate and senators from some of the affected states. the house foreign affairs committee and the regional influence. that is at 2:00 p.m. eastern. the senate voted on the u.n. treaty for the disabled. sixty-six votes were needed for ratification. sixty-eight to 38 the vote failed. >> i think it would be fair not to use of the time in an unfair way. i would ask that if they are not ready to use their time, that this be charged against them. because i think it is important that we don't give a part-time as a result of that. i ask unanimous consent that we not be charged
last chance to talk washington down from the fiscal cliff. host: c-span will be carrying that press conference live, fed chairman ben bernanke, on c-span 3. you can find that at 2:15 p.m. eastern time. you can find it on their website, we will be archiving that after the fact. what deductions would you give up? let's go to dawn in eugene, oregon. caller code good morning. listen, the contribution thing is a way to be of service, as far as i'm concerned. host: by contribution you mean charitable contribution? caller: yes. it is something that i would want to keep. i mean, not keep, but i would be willing to contribute to that concern about taxes. my main concern is the mortgage deduction. how severe -- many of us have every dollar that we account for on the federal. if we did not have that, we would be up to 25%. this would be quite a severe blow if this were done in a cut and dried fashion. maybe they can do a tiered thing? that is the thing about taxes, a lot of people purchase property taxes, i am really for a federal sales tax. maybe some of us could keep the deductions that we a
is live in washington. nice to see you. new polls. what do americans want to see in a fiscal cliff deal? >> the polls are at these num, the big sticking points, should taxes be raised on those making over $250,000 a taxes would be raised if there's no deal to avert the fiscal cliff. yesterday as you said, the president was in northern virginia meeting with a middle class family who would suffer if there was no deal. last week the president went to suburban philadelphia, to a small business again to make the point of his side in these fiscal cliff negotiations. different than a year and a half ago when the president dealt only with republicans in congress. this time he is taking the case to americans and getting outside of washington, d.c. congressional republicans not so happy that the president is doing this. >> we understand that. paul steinhauser live in washington, thank you. >>> let's talk more about the fiscal cliff. we have the washington correspondent for the new yorker and cnn contributor ryan lizza with us. john boehner and the president in a room, just the two of them. good i
will depart washington in february, but not before weighing in on the fiscal cliff. welcome back. >> thank you. >> congressman, let me start just a question to both of you. would you describe yourself as disappointed, bitter, upset? how would you describe your post-election feelings? >> i don't know if i'm angry, disappointed. any of those things. new chapter in life. i wish i would have won, but that didn't happen. the voters made a different decision. i'm still very passionate about the things that brought me to the congress in the first place and i hope to continue to stay in that fight. so, i don't have any of those emotions of feeling like a negative feeling at all. >> are you in the same place? you were in a very close race. >> i guess a little bit different. the number one take away is the absolute privilege of being able to serve the 14 years that i served you can't help but look back and be really appreciatative that i had the opportunity to be here and make my mark. no doubt there is a grieving period when you lose an election, but i worked quickly through that point and very excited
.com. >> this is a test. >> washington fiscal cliff talks raising billions of dollars in november compared to the previous month. it is up, believe it or not, $1.1 trillion coming year-over-year. will this put pressure on the white house and congress to put big spending cuts on the table? let's ask scott garrett of new jersey and vice-chairman of the budget committee. $1.1 trillion deficit for 2012 budget. that is just not there. >> it is not good. i understand that you're going to have a marriage counselor? [laughter] so i assume the answer is that one of the issues that lead to a breakup is right overspending. that's what we have here. tracy: we are dying to know why we can't get this figured out. >> well, just as in marriage, to solve the problem on spending some you have to sit around a the kitchen table and get open the checkbook. i guess that is the exact same thing that needs to be going on here in washington. speaker boehner has been trying to do that. the money is just flowing out, we will continue to talk about the legislature and the president has not come to the kitchen table with a real plan.
take on what we've just heard from governor snyder and also the current state of the fiscal cliff negotiations in washington is our colleague and friend ruth marcus from "the washington post." columnist for "the washington post." ruth, this whole issue in the midwest, this used to be most likely in the southern states, but this really is moving, and we're seeing a real decline in union household membership about half what it was 40 years ago. it used to be 24%. now it's 11.8%. >> unions are reeling, and the more states that enact measures like this, the more unions will be reeling. their penetration, the private sector is something like 7% of the private sector work force is unionized, and i have to say -- i don't use words like this very often, i thought some of the governor's comments were kind of orwelian to suggest this was a pro-worker move. it's clearly a move that may help businesses, but what a kick in the teeth to autoworkers unions, who as you correctly point d out, gave a lot back to help the auto industry get back on its feet, the notion that we had to do this now with
the national christmas tree. >> tomorrow on washington journal they discuss the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. they look at the role of lobyists in those fiscal cliff negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. >> by a majority of 6 to 3 and they are going to say that is precedent. and indiana had a -- >> they decided on the indiana case it was constitutional for them to establish i.d. they did not say that all of those states who have subsequently done that -- >> let me finish because you misrepresent what i said. >> hold on. >> that's the law of the land. >> when i hear these accusations that black people, voter i.d. laws disproportionately affect minorities, it implies to me we have something missing in our brain. to me if white can get i.d.'s to vote and follow the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that they are not good enough, that they are lesser than and that bothers me from democrats on the left that we always have to make special -- there has to be a specialness when we deal with m
that gives workers the right to not pay dues. >> steve: washington can't find a solution to the fiscal cliff . but someone who fixed budgets in the past know it is simple. >> if i raise taxes again i will have to do it in two or four years . people are going to leave. >> steve: find out how america's mayor did it straight ahead. straight ahead. feel a cold coming on? gretchen, you will be better in no time. we'll drink to that. >> you will be better in no time and all of my teases will rhyme today. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: ho, ho, hompt look who is here today eric boling. >> gretchen: you get your own personal lurch. >> eric: good to be here. >> steve: you will find out how booze, beer and wine can make you healthier. the news we have all waited for. >> gretchen: yeah, a lot of people waking up with a headache. now it makes sense why i drank so much last night. overnight a developing story. a medical chopper went down last night leaving three people dead. the chopper which is reggistered to rock ford memorial hospital it went down in a field .
on the fiscal cliff. this morning "washington journal" talk to a business representative about his take on the negotiations. host: let's begin with what is business forward, how did it come about? guest: is simple mission. our job is to make it easier for business leaders in the country who care about policy issues but did not have a washington office or a lobbyist, to speak about the issues of public policy. host: is this a brand-new organization? who is involved? >> we have been around 3 1/2 years, supported by some of the biggest companies of the world, with business leaders are in the country. we go out to small business owners, entrepreneurs, venture capitalist to get them involved in policy-making. what we do is we bring administration officials, members of congress, governors out to cities around the country to be briefings with business leaders. what we also do is bring the business leaders to washington. we tell them how to grow jobs and accelerate. host: what did the business leaders say to the president and how did it come about? guest: we have been doing this for a year, bri
could tumble off the so-called fiscal cliff if washington can't strike a deal. so with the clock ticking and the stakes so high, both the white house and republican leaders are tamping down their fiery rhetoric. listen to president obama's sales pitch for his version of a compromise. >> when you put it all together, what you need is a package that keeps taxes where they are for middle class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things that we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a slightly higher tax rate. >> brianna keilar is at the white house. brianna, are meetings going on outside of the public's view? is that your understanding? >> reporter: well, there are discussions. that is what we're told. as we understand it, obviously, the last meeting between the president and speaker boehner was on sunday. but we're told by both the white house and the speaker's office that discussions are ongoing, so, obviously, they can all pick up the telephone, and that, quote, the lines of communication are open. this is thing we're hearing over and over again. but make t
on the fiscal cliff. here's the wall street journal -- but then here's the "washington times this morning with their deadline -- headline -- so those are two headlines on house speaker john boehner and how he is doing in the fiscal cliff tops. headline is the president and the speaker both press each other. so that the latest in the back and forth on the fiscal cliff talks. the polls out, this is one from gallup. and the new york post shows this poll -- back to our topic, our question, do you support or oppose right-to-work laws? paul in utica, michigan, democrat. caller: i live in suburban detroit. i am a retired union worker, not automotive, by the way. i don't think my union is a thug in any way, but i think it's a sad day for the state of michigan. if the workers in this country cannot look to michigan like they always have, for a decent pay, and i think that is where we are headed, i just think it is a sad day. all the people who voted for these republicans, they are going to get what they asked for. this is what is going on here. i really sad about it. host: the car czar for michiga
of the so-called fiscal cliff discussions. then all look at the lobbying going around the fiscal cliff negotiations by clients in washington. our guest is anna palmer. and later a discussion on syria and the response from the international community. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c-span. this week on news makers, the vermont governor and chair of the democratic governors' association peter shumlin. he talks about the fiscal cliff and laying the groundwork for the 2013-2014 election. that is at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> in president obama's weekly address, he talks about tax policy, the tax cuts put in place by the previous administration that will expire at the end of the year. then the republican address on the economy, jobs, and education policy. >> hello, everybody. over the last few weeks, there's been a lot of talk about deadlines we're facing on jobs and taxes and investments. but with so much noise and so many opinions flying around, it can be easy to lose sight of what this debate is really about. it's not about which political party comes out on top, or who wins or
east. it is in washington, d.c. the fact we are freaking out over the fiscal cliff and we keep losing track that we are $16 trillion in debt. we have only gotten that way because the u.s. dollar has been the reserve currency. that is help people pay for oil and around the world. that is going to end it. people are slowing down lending us money. that is why the federal reserve is printing more and more dollars, going out there in circulation. that is why you see price inflation in the stores. the government -- you want to give them more money? these are the same people who stole the social security trust fund, yes? they spent it all. these are the same people who seem to have plenty of money for home and security to be buying tanks and drones for local police officers, the are militarizing the police. they want to start more wars. host: what happens in the next couple of weeks on the issues we are talking about with the fiscal cliff? would you be ok if we went over it? caller: i would not be happy about it, but yes. what is the answer, raise more taxes? they will just spend it. it will
a 39.6%. that's the washington post this morning. below that, governors say the fiscal cliff would hurt their states' economies. several governors met at the white house yesterday and with political leaders to say something needs to be done or their economies and on the state level will be heard. -- be hurt. let's go to walter in new jersey, independent caller. good morning. caller: good morning. i don't know what's wrong with these people, because they have to come to some kind of agreement. the gop has to give ground, taxes wouldybody's go up just to save 2%. it just does not cut it. it is a bad move politically and bad for the country. host: polloi in johnsonville, virginia. -- floyd. caller: i was thinking about the fiscal cliff. i don't think that's the problem at. the problem is when we fell off the moral cliff. our president said gay marriage was ok. and america killing so many babies. side,e get back on god's everything else will take care of itself. that's the way it is. a guy said it seemed like christians are down and out. let me tell you, christians are the happiest people t
&p are looking to finish the week on a winning note despite the lack of progress in washington on the fiscal cliff. the nasdaq continues to be dragged down by apple. >> apple's had a tough week. we'll get into that coming up. we're still looking for a deal on capitol hill, surprise, surprise. all to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. just in case, though, we've got some experts on happened to help you protect your money. here's how we stand right now, though. it's been a generally positive day for some of the blue chip averages. the dow among them. up 57 points right now, near the highs of the session at 13,003 and change. the nasdaq continues lower. you can blame apple. technology suffering as a result today, down 12 points right now at 2977. the s&p is up 2.25 points at 1416. with less than an hour to go in the trading week, another week without a deal to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. while today's positive jobs report did give markets a boost early on, it wasn't enough to get a significant rally going and to continue it on. so what's it going to take to get some conviction bac
a whole lot of fuel to this current debate that is occupying washington over the fiscal cliff and finding a deficit reduction plan and also sort of coupled with trying to avoid these spending cuts and tax increases that are set for the end of the year, don. >> what is that, is that a leaf blower? what's going on behind you? >> reporter: honestly, sometimes -- i think it is a leaf blower. sometimes it's a jack hammer. sometimes it's a leaf blower. sometimes it's a lawn mower. always a lot of work going on here at the white house. >> thank you, brianna keilar. have a great morning. >> from jobs now to labor. protesters are furious that michigan's republican controlled house and senate quickly passed controversial right to work bills. the bills limit the right to strike and picket and employees cannot be forced to pay union dues. democrats and union supporters say this is a huge blow to workers' rights. >> it terrifies me that they're trying to pass this through so quickly with no discussion from the other side, no understanding of what's important in it. >> poppy harlow joins us now from la
foray outside washington today, trying to build public support for a fiscal cliff agreement. it came a day after he resumed talking with the top house republican, and as a year-end deadline moved even closer. the president took his public campaign for a deficit deal on his terms to the daimler diesel plant in redford michigan. >> if congress doesn't act soon meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1, everybody is going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that? >> no! woodruff: instead, mr. obama again pressed for raising tax rates on the top two percent of incomes. >> and that's a principle i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all our tax breaks and then we're asking students to pay higher student loans. >> woodruff: his michigan visit came a day after the president and house speaker john boehner met privately at the white house. their first one-on-one session since the election. neither side gave any details about what was discussed. instead they issued
of votes. back on to the issue of the fiscal cliff. the "washington journal" has been throughout the last couple of weeks focusing on specific elements of the issue. this morning focusing on social security and how congressional leaders plan to handle social security as part of the fiscal cliff talks. first up here on overview from a capitol hill reporter on social security. >> here to talk about the prop program and how it is involved in these discussions. steven joining us from the associated press where he's a reporter. thank you for being here. how many people in america receive social security and how much do they get? guest: a little bit more than 56 million people get social security and the average benefit is a little over $12,000 -- let's see, a little over $1,200 a month. so maybe it's like $13,000, $14,000 a year. host: and we're talking about retirees. also, though, the disabled. guest: yes, yes. actually we have a fairly wide group of people get social security benefits. retired workers, spouses, children, disabled workers, widows, widowers. it's actually a fairly big social
is part of fiscal cliff. on "washington journal", we will look at the expiring unemployment benefits. then our roundtable with michael tanner of the cato institute. "washington journal" is live every day on c-span at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> the chief of staff had to make the plan for the invasion of japan without considering the atomic bomb. it was estimated the land on -- would cost 250,000 of our men, and 500,000 on -- >> as harry truman's grandson, i have to choose to honor -- the sacrifice and the sacrifice of american servicemen fighting their way through the pacific and of a little girl who died as a result of the atomic bombing. it is unimaginable what that must have been like to be close to that, to the hypo center, where the blast was strong gusts. >> follow clifton truman daniel on his trip to hiroshima. he discusses meetings of bomb survivors and the inspiration for his trip at 9:00 p.m. eastern. housing secretary shaun donovan today said he could not guarantee the federal housing administration would be able to avoid using taxpayer dollars next year to shore up its home mor
expenditures. washington journal is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. our coverage of the fiscal cliff has reached speaking with the house speaker and the minority leader. president obama speech to members of the business roundtable about the negotiations and the economy. he told ceos he would not negotiate. because of technical problems, we can only show you part of his remarks. >> we are grateful for both the electricity and the engagement we have had with members of your team. i know your team has really reached out significantly over the last few months to many people in this room and i know personally, the outreach to us is genuine and we know you are seeking solutions. but that was outlined very sincerely this morning when we met with jack and the rest of the team. i hope you get the same sense of purpose and commitment from us as we engage with you. there aren't a lot of wallflowers' in here. we are eager for a two-way exchange nonetheless. hopefully your take away would be to have a useful purpose in the dialogue. mr. president, thank you for joining us today. [applause] >> good mo
of the so-called fiscal cliff. on this morning's "washington journal," we'll look at the expiring unemployment benefits. our first guest is josh boak of "the fiscal times," then we have a roundtable. "washington journal" is live every day on c-span at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 6-3, i believe, and they're going to say that is precedent. >> and what is -- and indiana had a voter i.d. >> we talk about fact. they decided on the indiana case, it was constitutional for them to establish i.d. they did not say that all of those states -- >> correct. they talked about indiana. let me finish though, because you misrepresented what i said. >> no, you're misrepresenting -- >> hold on, hold on, hold on. >> this is the law of the land. >> and when i hear these accusations that black people, voter i.d. laws, you know, disproportionately affect minorities -- it implies to me that somehow we have something missing in our brain, we're lesser. to me, if white americans can get i.d.'s to vote and go through all the processes to follo
. tomorrow, on washington journal, guests discussed the latest on the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and the week ahead. a politico reporter looks at the lobbyist involvement in those negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 63, i believe and they are going to say that is president. and indiana -- >> we are talking about facts. when they decided the indiana case, it was constitutional for them to establish it. they did not say all the states -- >> correct. they talked about indiana. let me finish peeping >> you are misrepresenting. >> no, i am not. >> i hear these accusations that black people, a voter i.d. lost disproportionately affect minorities. it implies to me that we have something missing in our brains. to me, if white americans can get it to vote and go through all the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that somehow they are not able to? they are lesser the man? that is what bothers me about the rhetoric coming from demo
in the middle east and change the dynamics of everything in washington. trust us on this including the fiscal cliff. >>> well, driving a hard bargain, president obama heads to the motor city and in the middle of a union fight. i have a former governor of michigan here. plus, we'll talk fiscal cliff and debt ceiling with him. plus, one hatch of simpson-bowles. the erskine bowles half. the less dancing of the duo. why former chief of staff is growing more optimistic we'll be able to get a deal before the cliff dive. by the way, will he take a job in president obama's cabinet? i'll have that answer straight ahead. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. you can see it's michigan with the lunch time remarks. back to the white house before 5:00. [ male announcer ] when ziggy the cat appeared at their door, he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong, his family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein... ...to help keep
-called fiscal cliff negotiations with a former congressional budget office director. then a look at the lobbying going on in washington. later, a look at developments in syria and the response from the international community. "washington journal" here on c- span. this week, we will have the vermont governor and new chairman of the democratic governors' association, who will talk about the fiscal cliff and laying the groundwork for the 2013 and 2014 elections. lives on sunday at 10:00 a.m. eastern. next, a quick look at president obama and the first family last week at the national christmas tree lighting ceremony. ♪ [applause] >> merry christmas, everybody! >> it is great to see you all. happy holidays. happy holidays, mr. president. >> is it time? i think it's time. i hope everybody is ready. we have to do the countdown. starting with five. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. [cheers] ♪ >> merry christmas, everybody. ♪ >> please welcome the director of washington and st. john's church. >> let us about our heads in prayer. let us prey. gracious god who has blessed us with this good land for our heritage, we h
. >> as these fiscal cliff negotiations and debate continues, i think it's important to remember that washington doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. and under this administration, under president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america desperately wants and we stand here ready to take the action necessary. >> the american people are hurting right now and now is the moment where we need to step up to the plate and solve the problem. i don't know how any of us can look our kids and grandkids in the
. stuart: i am beginning to like you. washington politicians bicker over the fiscal cliff, very frustrating. at the end of the day we're going to look more like europe. my take on that is next. charles: wall street doesn't have to face tim cook. >> ruled this video tape back in the new year. this will be apple's those profitable quarter ever. rolled this case back. make fun of me later. i am saying it. of the one that was clayton morris in the last hour making a bold prediction of apple. the stock has been getting back but right now it is down a bit more, $6 lower at 11:40. let's check the overall market of 44 points putting the dow above 13,100. netflix shares up again. nicole: this is showing resiliency for netflix. this is a stock people thought would be to the downside based on what we heard. we heard they posted something on facebook, regulated, they are upset with them so we have regulators now warning netflix about exactly that, they can't just postings on facebook. they have to be disclosed properly. there are disclosure rules. the ceo is saying don't worry about it. we think this o
"/abc poll of handling of fiscal cliff negotiations, obama, 47% approve, 46% disapprove. boehner, 24% approve. 54% disapprove. i would say, the republican party continues to have a branding problem. >> there is. >> or a disintegrating problem in washington. >> it is a branding problem that was born of chaos in the primary process that continues. there is a great "politico" article that actually talks about the republican problem with branding. and talks about -- >> it's a great piece. >> have you seen this? >> yeah. >> the republican party has a branding problem. these are researchers that say -- we asked 22, 23 different topics, whether americans related more to the democratic party or the republican party. 22 of the 23, they appeal more to democrats. >> yeah. >> it is a generalized, massive branding problem over what's happened nationally over the past year. >> except in the south. >> the piece, in part, points out that unlike people who sit around here, most people, normal people out there in america react emotionally to politics when they hear phrases, they react emotionally. does this re
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a little asterisk next to it that it's going to be unclear. >> one thing we've seen from the fiscal cliff is that ceos have stepped up and gone into congress and washington and said, listen, deal with this issue. it's affecting us. we do know that in the third quarter the fiscal cliff did contribute to a decline in investment. althoughmanufacturing was weakened. it's not justified by the underlying fundamentals. you have to believe that part of that is due to the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff. and we've seen a number of companies coming out saying we're not firing but we're delaying hiring and delaying investment projects. delays in an already weak economy, you don't want hesitation. it's a vicious cycle of hesitation and slow growth. kind of an opposite of what we saw in the '90s where you had certainty and caution thrown to the wind in robust growth. >> christine has one ear piece in, talking with us with the other ear. >> hurricane sandy, they say, did not affect the overall rate. they did not see that the overall rate was affected by hurricane sandy. the labor force declined a bid o
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" continues. the: we're talking about business of the fiscal cliff. we have a reporter from politico. you begin by saying it is big business. guest: is not just big business inside the capitol. in washington, is an economic driver. millions of dollars are being spent to influence the lawmakers and the white house from outside groups like the chamber of commerce and others. host: special interest groups have been at the table because they have the money but the special interest groups say is their freedom of expression. guest: it is a push/pull every single day. there are some different groups that have come up better not may be your typical lobbying entities. host: let me share with you a couple of ads - we have been hearing a lot from aarp and they have used this as an issue. these absolutely, we see groups that are for seniors which are non-traditional. it is groups represent every day americans talking about what will happen. host: [video clip] if we are serious about reducing the deficit, we have to combine spending cuts of revenue. >> but so far, a huge tax increase is his solution,
any holiday folks. as long as the fiscal cliff is approaching ahead. we have a panel to debate how like light is that a dial might happen any soon, bill, plus th this. [chanting] bill: tempers are hot on fire. controversial right to work law passed in michigan and a top union leader is here live in a moment and will react to all of that. martha: in a will be pretty interesting, stick around for that. a massive gas explosion. look at that car driving flight through it, melted parts of a major interstate. witnesses describe this horrifying scene coming up. >> all of a sudden i mean the christmas -- the ornaments on the tree, my pictures rattled, everything, and then it just -- it sounded -- almost like the end of the world, or like turbine engines. bill: a major highway reopening in west virginia after a massive explosion shut it down. check that out. that is a police car driving through the flames. several homes destroyed, interstate 77 is now back open in both directions, and the natural gas line fire melted guardrails, left an 800-foot section baked by the heat, four homes taken o
the fiscal cliff and lines of communication remain open. the white house beating is the same day republicans appeared to be moving closer to the president's position on raising taxes for the wealthy. a senator appeared on fox news sunday along with a democrat schumer. >> the growing group of thugs are realizing they don't have a lot of cards related to tax issues. people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you give the president the 2 percent increase he is talking about, the rate increase on the top 2 percent and suddenly the shift goes back to entitlements. >> if speaker boehner ends up where senator corker has just said he is, we will get a large israel's red line is different than the united states, considering it to be the movement of chemical weapons to extremists and obama administration said their trigger for action would be any move by syria to use the weapons. >>gregg: how about this, could michelle obama have a future in our political insiders will weigh in on that. >>heather: and a guaranteed investment, but why are so many investors turning their back on go
's quarterback dilemma. what is worse. fiscal cliff. >> coach ryan has a problem. three quarterbacks. sanchez and tim tebow and a guy by the name of alcorroy. he can't decide who is the quarterback going to be. >> brian: minority leadership mitch mcconnel >> no doubt about who the quarterback is on the democratic side it is the president of the united states . unfortunatelyy he keeps throwing interceptions. and we are moving back ward. >> brian: nfl network all politics. mark san ford will start. he did the sports cast with his hands in the back pocket. since then you are the friend. what is constance up to. >> gretchen: wow, and you get to sit in the center of the couch. >> good to see you. >> gretchen: do you feel an ination. >> brian: that's my normal. >> gretchen: either approximate mine or brian. >> kind of warm and can have they. >> you were going to say small. >> brian: as he said. he has a bigger butt than me. you have something serious though to talk about. not only your great career but something happened in late october that people are forkneting about. >> everybody talked about su
really interesting. washington is so obsessed right now with the fiscal cliff, myself included. what is happening with the budget showdown. yet they -- the polling seems to indicate that job creation and and the state of the economy remain, you know, their main concern. go ahead, todd. >> i think they go hand in hand because from a business perspective certainly, large corporations are sitting on lots of cash. they're not investing right now because they're unsure of the future, not just the economic future, but also the future of tax policy in all the rest of that. and all of that is tied in hand to hand. that is, to some degree, keeping the economy back. if we can reach some sort of a deal where we are not coming to blows over six months or year on what policy will look like for another six months, that will give us a lot of confidence and create the kind of government that people say they want. i'm not so sure there is really a bifurcation between what washington is focused on a more people said they want because i do think all of it ultimately is about jobs and economic growth. >
's assume we go through the fiscal cliff, and i want to ask susan about this first. immigration, corporate tax reform, and investments. immigration, you are not going to do just the dream act, you either do comprehensive immigration or you don't. we have learned, we had a chance to do it, george bush, john mccain, ted ken dirks both wings came and decide they had were going to sabotage it. yeah, maybe the republicans learned a lesson this time but i am a not sure how much. corporate tax reform, sounds great. i covered the 1985-1986 act. the way that was financed was through the corporate tax increased. they have the most skillful treasury secretary around and people on both sides willing to work with the white house and congress, doesn't exist today. and thirdly, when you talk about infrastructure spending investments and spending things to be done with n.i.h. and national science foundation and the like, all the talk now is about debt. it's not about any -- >> we are going to be going into a conversation on -- >> how do you do what glenn's very am beneficiaries -- ambitious envisions. >>
americans do not realize. everyone in washington is talking about the fiscal cliff and the tax increases that might come from that. but today i want to talk about something different. those are the tax increases that are coming regardless of what happens with the fiscal cliff. and those are the tax hikes that we're seeing because of president obama's health care law. people who have been following this closely know that president obama's health care law guarantees that middle-class families will pay higher taxes. the president promised repea repeatedly that he would not raise taxes on the middle class. as a matter of fact he said -- quote -- "if you're a family making less than $200,00200,000a year, my plan won't raise your taxes one opiniony. not your income taxes, not your payroll taxes, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." that's what the president said. but once he got into office, president obama arranged for his health care plan to be written behind closed doors. democrats in congress passed it, and they did it strictly along party lines. this law has included more
week republicans made a serious offer to avert the fiscal cliff, and most of it was based on testimony given last year by president clinton's former chief of staff erskine bolles. as he said on sunday, we have to cut spending. well, he is right. washington has a spending problem. let's be honest, we're broke, and the plan that we've offered is consistent with the president's call for a balanced approach. a lot of people know that the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting. cordal. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. here's what we do know. we know that the president wants more stimulus spending and an increase in the debt limit without any cuts or reforms. that's not physicianing our problem. frankly, it's making it worse. on top of that, the president wants to raise tax rates on many s
is cliff negotiations may have on tax incentives from today's washington journal. this is just under 10 minutes. >> guest: >> host: we have been focusing on different parts of the fiscal cliff discussion and now we are looking at tax extenders or tax incentives for business and individuals. joining us in this discussion is a tax writer for see q roll-call, what are text extenders? >> temporary tax breaks. that is the most basic definition. some are concerned the entire tax code is turning to one text extender. where do you define it? traditionally they are considered to be small provisions narrowly targeted at different types of businesses. some do individuals as well. >> host: why are the temporary? >> guest: good question. a lot of people including people in congress say they should be made permanent or they should be eliminated altogether. but they are temporary because it is easier to pass that way, looks like it costs less. usually they keep being extended and extended so in effect they are almost permanent. >> host: we will look at some of these, this is congressional research ser
parties can't get together to come to agreement on avoiding the fiscal cliff. it's as if some are in denial that there was an election and that the president won reelection. and that a whole bunch of us won reelection to the senate and to the house. it's as if the ideological rigidity is still indoctrinaire. and the lesson as that the people were telling us about -- and the lessons that the people were telling us about bipartisanship, that they demand bipartisanship, as if the parties and their leaders didn't understand that that's what the american people were demanding. and here, as the drumbeat grows louder as we approach december 31st and falling off the fiscal cliff. now, there's an easy cliff, whatever your ideology and your approach to this. it can be hammered out next year when we are doing major things, such as a rewrite of the i.r.s. tax code and all that that can portend in producing revenue. by making the code more streamlined and in the process get rid of a lot of the underbrush, loopholes, utilize that revenue to lower rates. but that's for another day after long
for digging into this stuff. we've got the debate about the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling and we're talking in the trillions. before you can even get to the trillions, if you can't stop stuff like this, does the american public ever believe that washington is going to get its act together if you can't stop this 100,000 here, million there, all, of course, adds up to billions. if we can't stop the zombies, taxpayers paying for the zombies, how can we ever tackle medicare and social security? [laughter] megyn: that's the thing that makes people upset, julie. all right, if you're going to increase my taxes to help pay down the debt, help people in need, that's one thing, but if i'm going to be paying for zombies or for santa to ride the $250,000 sleigh, i object. >> i'm a little embarrassed. can you imagine being an employee and having to pretended to be a zombie? >> those were actors. >> i don't know about that. [laughter] i think they may have been dhs employees dressed up. charles is right, thanksgiving a little ri -- this is a little ridiculous. i understand what they're trying
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